От	Александр Жмодиков
К	All
Дата	29.01.2008 11:52:33
Рубрики	WWII;

Наверное, забавная книга

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FUBAR F***ED UP BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION SOLDIER SLANG OF WORLD WAR II / Rottman, Gordon
272p Hbk Illustrated.
Covers Commonwealth U.S. German Russian & Japanese

Солдатский сленг Второй Мировой войны.
Охватывает страны Содружества, США, немцев, русских и японцев.

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От	Hokum
К	Александр Жмодиков (29.01.2008 11:52:33)
Дата	29.01.2008 15:33:12

SNAFU - TARFU - FUBAR

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Три степени бардака в подразделении (или еще где):
SNAFU - situation normal - all f@cked up
TARFU - things are really f@cked up
FUBAR - f@cked up beyond all recovery

В вольном переводе на русский - п...ц, полный п...ц и п...ц, который не лечится :)))

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От	FED-2
К	Hokum (29.01.2008 15:33:12)
Дата	29.01.2008 18:08:37

А разве FUBAR это военное?

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Здравствуйте!

> ...

>FUBAR - f@cked up beyond all recovery
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Я слышал версию, что "FUBAR" происходит от информатиков Массачусетского Политехнического Института (f@cked up beyond all RECOGNITION). И среди компютерщиков ещё встречается версия "FOOBAR".

С уважением,
Алик

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От	Pout
К	FED-2 (29.01.2008 18:08:37)
Дата	29.01.2008 19:24:08

военный FUBAR это не хакерский foobar

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>Здравствуйте!

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>>FUBAR - f@cked up beyond all recovery
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>Я слышал версию, что "FUBAR" происходит от информатиков Массачусетского Политехнического Института (f@cked up beyond all RECOGNITION). И среди компютерщиков ещё встречается версия "FOOBAR".

http://www.th-soft.com/zzJargon/F.htm#foobar
foo

:foo: /foo/ 1. interj. Term of disgust. 2. Used very generally as a sample name for absolutely anything, esp. programs and files (esp. scratch files). 3. First on the standard list of metasyntactic variables used in syntax examples. See also bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud. The etymology of hackish `foo' is obscure. When used in connection with `bar' it is generally traced to the WWII-era Army slang acronym FUBAR (`Fucked Up Beyond All Repair'), later bowdlerized to foobar. (See also FUBAR). However, the use of the word `foo' itself has more complicated antecedents, including a long history in comic strips and cartoons. The old "Smokey Stover" comic strips by Bill Holman often included the word `FOO', in particular on license plates of cars; allegedly, `FOO' and `BAR' also occurred in Walt Kelly's "Pogo" strips. In the 1938 cartoon "The Daffy Doc", a very early version of Daffy Duck holds up a sign saying "SILENCE IS FOO!"; oddly, this seems to refer to some approving or positive affirmative use of foo. It has been suggested that this might be related to the Chinese word `fu' (sometimes transliterated `foo'), which can mean "happiness" when spoken with the proper tone (the lion-dog guardians flanking the steps of many Chinese restaurants are properly called "fu dogs"). Earlier versions of this entry suggested the possibility that hacker usage actually sprang from "FOO, Lampoons and Parody", the title of a comic book first issued in September 1958, a joint project of Charles and Robert Crumb. Though Robert Crumb (then in his mid-teens) later became one of the most important and influential artists in underground comics, this venture was hardly a success; indeed, the brothers later burned most of the existing copies in disgust. The title FOO was featured in large letters on the front cover. However, very few copies of this comic actually circulated, and students of Crumb's `oeuvre' have established that this title was a reference to the earlier Smokey Stover comics. An old-time member reports that in the 1959 "Dictionary of the TMRC Language", compiled at TMRC there was an entry that went something like this: FOO: The first syllable of the sacred chant phrase "FOO MANE PADME HUM." Our first obligation is to keep the foo counters turning. For more about the legendary foo counters, see TMRC. Almost the entire staff of what became the MIT AI LAB was involved with TMRC, and probably picked the word up there. Very probably, hackish `foo' had no single origin and derives through all these channels from Yiddish `feh' and/or English `fooey'.
foobar

:foobar: n. Another common metasyntactic variable; see foo. Hackers do *not* generally use this to mean FUBAR in either the slang or jargon sense.
FUBAR

:FUBAR: n. The Failed UniBus Address Register in a VAX. A good example of how jargon can occasionally be snuck past the suits; see foobar, and foo for a fuller etymology.

The New Hacker's Dictionary
http://situation.ru/

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От	Sergey Ilyin
К	Александр Жмодиков (29.01.2008 11:52:33)
Дата	29.01.2008 13:11:17

SNAFU!

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По американцам неплохой список есть вот тут:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Army_acronyms_and_expressions#Slang_initialisms_and_acronyms

С уважением, СИ

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От	А.Власов
К	Александр Жмодиков (29.01.2008 11:52:33)
Дата	29.01.2008 12:37:49

FUBAR это то, что капрал Абхэм (+)

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в "Спасти Рядового Райна" не мог найти ни в одном словаре?)

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